US Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland in testimony to Congress said that US President Donald Trump gave him instructions to involve the lawyer of the leader Rudy Giuliani in the policy towards Ukraine. CNN reported.
The Ambassador announced the information at a closed hearing of the House of Representatives in the investigation of the impeachment of Trump. According to him, such instructions from the President also received former US representative in Ukraine Kurt Volcker and Energy Secretary Rick Perry.
“President Trump was skeptical that Ukraine is serious about reforms and fighting corruption, and he ordered us… to talk to Mr. Giuliani about these doubts. It was obvious to all of us that the key to changing the President’s mind about Ukraine was Mr. Giuliani,” Sondland said.
The instruction upset the Ambassador, Perry, and Volker. Sondland believes that all aspects of US policy toward Ukraine should be the responsibility of state Department officials, not the President’s lawyer.
The Ambassador noted that he belatedly realized that Giuliani’s agenda contains efforts to “push Ukrainians” to investigate the actions of former Vice President Biden or his son Hunter. The same applies to the involvement of Ukrainians in the US election campaign in 2020, Sondland added.
He cited Giuliani’s words that Trump wants a public statement from Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on the state’s fight against corruption.
“Mr. Giuliani specifically mentioned the 2016 election and Burisma as two anti-corruption investigation topics of importance to the President,” Sondland’s testimony stated.
He also noted that during a telephone conversation with Trump, he said that he does not want anything from Ukraine for US military assistance.
“I asked him:” What do you want from Ukraine?” The President replied, ” Nothing. No quid pro quo.” He repeated it several times. And I recall that the President was in a bad mood,” Sondland said.